Comments for Proposed Sustainable Urban Extension - Hillborough, Herne Bay - Phase 1 http://www.hillboroughextension.com Sun, 04 Sep 2011 18:36:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 Comment on Blacksoles Bridge by Hillborough http://www.hillboroughextension.com/2011/07/19/blacksoles-bridge/#comment-41 Hillborough Sun, 04 Sep 2011 18:36:37 +0000 http://www.seepreview.co.uk/hillborough/?p=170#comment-41 Editors Note: The true proposition is actually the reverse of what is being said. This is something that CCC should have dealt with many years before Altira Business Park was approved, they played catch up when Altira came on their radar having missed the opportunity of making the developers of the houses that have actually caused the congestion responsible for the bridge in the first place. There is nothing to stop KCC carrying out the works right now and it is abdication of political responsibility to try and posit the blame for any future accident, should one occur, at Kitewood’s doorstep. This is a political issue that should have been resolved by the politicians long ago and whilst we do not recognise the comment you attribute to Roger Gale MP and therefore do not address the following comment to him, taking cheap shots at Kitewood would scarcely behove any responsible politician. Editors Note: The true proposition is actually the reverse of what is being said. This is something that CCC should have dealt with many years before Altira Business Park was approved, they played catch up when Altira came on their radar having missed the opportunity of making the developers of the houses that have actually caused the congestion responsible for the bridge in the first place. There is nothing to stop KCC carrying out the works right now and it is abdication of political responsibility to try and posit the blame for any future accident, should one occur, at Kitewood’s doorstep. This is a political issue that should have been resolved by the politicians long ago and whilst we do not recognise the comment you attribute to Roger Gale MP and therefore do not address the following comment to him, taking cheap shots at Kitewood would scarcely behove any responsible politician.

]]> Comment on Existing Margate Road Bridge by Hillborough http://www.hillboroughextension.com/2011/06/22/margate-road-bridge/#comment-40 Hillborough Sun, 04 Sep 2011 18:27:25 +0000 http://www.seepreview.co.uk/hillborough/?p=80#comment-40 Editors Note: Kitewood wishes it to be known that they did not "excluded" anything. CCC recognised that if Kitewood were to pay for the bridge works they needed to be able to develop a certain part of Altira Business Park to generate the necessary funds. Because of the recession, not enough development has taken place at Altira and the necessary funds have not been generated. This is not a question of Kitewood avoiding any obligation it has. Kitewood fully intends to honour its obligation. Editors Note: Kitewood wishes it to be known that they did not “excluded” anything. CCC recognised that if Kitewood were to pay for the bridge works they needed to be able to develop a certain part of Altira Business Park to generate the necessary funds. Because of the recession, not enough development has taken place at Altira and the necessary funds have not been generated. This is not a question of Kitewood avoiding any obligation it has. Kitewood fully intends to honour its obligation.

]]> Comment on Heart In Hand Road Slip Road by Thunderbird http://www.hillboroughextension.com/2011/06/22/heart-in-hand-road-slip-road/#comment-39 Thunderbird Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:42:49 +0000 http://www.seepreview.co.uk/hillborough/?p=85#comment-39 I don't know why they didn't do this when they built the new Thanet Way. Its so dangerous trying to join the road with traffic zooming by so a slip road where I can accelerate to get on the Thantet Way safely would be great. I don’t know why they didn’t do this when they built the new Thanet Way. Its so dangerous trying to join the road with traffic zooming by so a slip road where I can accelerate to get on the Thantet Way safely would be great.

]]> Comment on Sweechbridge Road Realignment by Thunderbird http://www.hillboroughextension.com/2011/06/22/sweechbridge-road-realignment/#comment-38 Thunderbird Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:39:30 +0000 http://www.seepreview.co.uk/hillborough/?p=87#comment-38 Yes and if we go back far enough, before the car was invented, we can see that life was different in so many ways but progress will happen for the greater good and the majority regardless of whether a Nimbyish minority resist change. Yes and if we go back far enough, before the car was invented, we can see that life was different in so many ways but progress will happen for the greater good and the majority regardless of whether a Nimbyish minority resist change.

]]> Comment on Altira Business Park Link Road by Thunderbird http://www.hillboroughextension.com/2011/06/22/altira-business-park-link-road/#comment-37 Thunderbird Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:37:03 +0000 http://www.seepreview.co.uk/hillborough/?p=89#comment-37 I suppose you don't drive then? or do you think its a matter of whoever gets in first should close the gate behind them and keep everyone else out? I suppose you don’t drive then? or do you think its a matter of whoever gets in first should close the gate behind them and keep everyone else out?

]]> Comment on Community Facilities by Thunderbird http://www.hillboroughextension.com/2011/06/22/community-facilities/#comment-36 Thunderbird Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:34:45 +0000 http://www.seepreview.co.uk/hillborough/?p=93#comment-36 The word Nimby does spring to mind here! The word Nimby does spring to mind here!

]]> Comment on Open Spaces by chas http://www.hillboroughextension.com/2011/06/22/open-spaces/#comment-35 chas Sun, 04 Sep 2011 14:43:08 +0000 http://www.seepreview.co.uk/hillborough/?p=74#comment-35 I must say I agree with you I must say I agree with you

]]> Comment on General Thoughts by chas http://www.hillboroughextension.com/2011/05/13/general-thoughts/#comment-34 chas Sun, 04 Sep 2011 14:40:19 +0000 http://www.seepreview.co.uk/hillborough/?p=63#comment-34 No nothing stays the same but we want to improve things not make lives and the enviroment worse No nothing stays the same
but we want to improve things not make lives and the enviroment worse

]]> Comment on General Thoughts by chas http://www.hillboroughextension.com/2011/05/13/general-thoughts/#comment-33 chas Sun, 04 Sep 2011 14:34:22 +0000 http://www.seepreview.co.uk/hillborough/?p=63#comment-33 I feel it is a short sighted policy that will only benefit big business not the people nor the environment Its congested with cars at this moment in time, without adding adding hundreds of cars take Herne bay's main road, its more like a B road, you have to keep pulling in for other cars to pass Travelling from Beltinge to Canterbury, it's not possible to safely overtake Can you imagine what kind of environment we will be living in and what we are leaving for our children, if and when this scheme goes ahead I am definitely against this scheme Chas I feel it is a short sighted policy that will only benefit big business not the people nor the environment

Its congested with cars at this moment in time, without adding adding hundreds of cars

take Herne bay’s main road, its more like a B road, you have to keep pulling in for other cars to pass

Travelling from Beltinge to Canterbury, it’s not possible to safely overtake
Can you imagine what kind of environment we will be living in and what we are leaving for our children, if and when this scheme goes ahead

I am definitely against this scheme

Chas

]]> Comment on Existing Margate Road Bridge by 00264167 http://www.hillboroughextension.com/2011/06/22/margate-road-bridge/#comment-32 00264167 Sun, 04 Sep 2011 12:07:28 +0000 http://www.seepreview.co.uk/hillborough/?p=80#comment-32 the blacksole bridge? it has been for many years and would/should have been improved with the last development (which created more traffic), if kitewood hadnt excluded improving it until occupancy at altira had reached a certain limit. the blacksole bridge?
it has been for many years and would/should have been improved with the last development (which created more traffic), if kitewood hadnt excluded improving it until occupancy at altira had reached a certain limit.

]]> Comment on Education by 00264167 http://www.hillboroughextension.com/2011/06/22/education/#comment-31 00264167 Sun, 04 Sep 2011 10:58:05 +0000 http://www.seepreview.co.uk/hillborough/?p=77#comment-31 incorrect. read the summary, 875 is their minimum number, phase 3 plan includes the possibility for 500 extra, which you can bet theyll be pushing for, bringing it to 1375. either way thats a substantial number of more people for the amount of school places. its not a question of could we benefit form a new school but whos going to be providing the extra capacity to accommodate the higher population. incorrect. read the summary, 875 is their minimum number, phase 3 plan includes the possibility for 500 extra, which you can bet theyll be pushing for, bringing it to 1375.
either way thats a substantial number of more people for the amount of school places.
its not a question of could we benefit form a new school but whos going to be providing the extra capacity to accommodate the higher population.

]]> Comment on Blacksoles Bridge by 00264167 http://www.hillboroughextension.com/2011/07/19/blacksoles-bridge/#comment-30 00264167 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 13:39:02 +0000 http://www.seepreview.co.uk/hillborough/?p=170#comment-30 have just found out it was kitewood itself that was responsible for building the bridge but unbelievably ccc signed up to a claus in kitewoods contract that it wouldnt be done until 17,000 square metres of altira was occupied. roger gale said it was like holding a gun to the head as it mean waiting until someone is hit on the bridge then the council would have to do it at our expense rather than kitewoods. have just found out it was kitewood itself that was responsible for building the bridge but unbelievably ccc signed up to a claus in kitewoods contract that it wouldnt be done until 17,000 square metres of altira was occupied.
roger gale said it was like holding a gun to the head as it mean waiting until someone is hit on the bridge then the council would have to do it at our expense rather than kitewoods.

]]> Comment on New Margate Road Bridge by 00264167 http://www.hillboroughextension.com/2011/06/22/new-margate-road-bridge/#comment-29 00264167 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 18:31:26 +0000 http://www.seepreview.co.uk/hillborough/?p=82#comment-29 Does this mean by the harvester? you can already walk over the bridge there i miss the footpath that used to go down the side of the thanet way from the harvester to eddington, that was useful and i dont know why they didnt put it back when they rebuilt the road as it runs from the roman galley to the harvester. now you have to walk the long way round to eddington or take your life in your hands on the dual carriage way if cycling. Does this mean by the harvester? you can already walk over the bridge there
i miss the footpath that used to go down the side of the thanet way from the harvester to eddington, that was useful and i dont know why they didnt put it back when they rebuilt the road as it runs from the roman galley to the harvester.
now you have to walk the long way round to eddington or take your life in your hands on the dual carriage way if cycling.

]]> Comment on Employment Opportunities by 00264167 http://www.hillboroughextension.com/2011/06/22/employment-opportunities/#comment-28 00264167 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 18:12:58 +0000 http://www.seepreview.co.uk/hillborough/?p=95#comment-28 there would only be minor changes to the roads and no facilities. the people buying the houses will be employed somewhere anyway and itll just be a serve as a housing bank for commuters, nothing wrong with that in itself but it wont add anything to attract employers. there would only be minor changes to the roads and no facilities. the people buying the houses will be employed somewhere anyway and itll just be a serve as a housing bank for commuters, nothing wrong with that in itself but it wont add anything to attract employers.

]]> Comment on Sweechbridge Road Realignment by 00264167 http://www.hillboroughextension.com/2011/06/22/sweechbridge-road-realignment/#comment-27 00264167 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:54:21 +0000 http://www.seepreview.co.uk/hillborough/?p=87#comment-27 by adding thousands more people to the local area wouldnt this be a planning necessity anyway? hopefully any changes would include pavement and cycle lanes preferably isolated off the road as in europe, so people arent forced in to using their cars to go everywhere. by adding thousands more people to the local area wouldnt this be a planning necessity anyway?
hopefully any changes would include pavement and cycle lanes preferably isolated off the road as in europe, so people arent forced in to using their cars to go everywhere.

]]> Comment on General Thoughts by 00264167 http://www.hillboroughextension.com/2011/05/13/general-thoughts/#comment-26 00264167 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:42:34 +0000 http://www.seepreview.co.uk/hillborough/?p=63#comment-26 yes some places do pick up with more people but i think that happens if they were ok to begin with and people want to use the local town. adding population doesnt mean things will flourish, i cant think of stronger evidence than the housing estate they built in hillborough a few years ago and there has been no improvement in anything locally as a result,... no change to the pound shops, cash converters, tattoo shops etc in herne bay, people go to canterbury, whitstable or westwood instead. more likely that unless the house are high end of the market, which they wont be, then hb would continue to become the housing bank for local low paid workers in contrast to chobham where the demographic are probably higher paid professionals/managers/graduates etc. im all for change as long as its an improvement in some way, but its most likely itll end up like a bland housing estate you see in thanet than somewhere that will improve the area, and that will only bring all the negative aspects of development. yes some places do pick up with more people but i think that happens if they were ok to begin with and people want to use the local town.
adding population doesnt mean things will flourish, i cant think of stronger evidence than the housing estate they built in hillborough a few years ago and there has been no improvement in anything locally as a result,… no change to the pound shops, cash converters, tattoo shops etc in herne bay, people go to canterbury, whitstable or westwood instead.
more likely that unless the house are high end of the market, which they wont be, then hb would continue to become the housing bank for local low paid workers in contrast to chobham where the demographic are probably higher paid professionals/managers/graduates etc.
im all for change as long as its an improvement in some way, but its most likely itll end up like a bland housing estate you see in thanet than somewhere that will improve the area, and that will only bring all the negative aspects of development.

]]> Comment on Heart In Hand Road Slip Road by 00264167 http://www.hillboroughextension.com/2011/06/22/heart-in-hand-road-slip-road/#comment-25 00264167 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:16:23 +0000 http://www.seepreview.co.uk/hillborough/?p=85#comment-25 ive driven out from that slip road many times, when ive used it theres usually not too much traffic on that stretch to wait for a big gap. i think it could have been better if had made a long sliproad like on the other side of the bridge rather than the junction type thats there but its the same as the ones further down at the plough etc. ive driven out from that slip road many times, when ive used it theres usually not too much traffic on that stretch to wait for a big gap. i think it could have been better if had made a long sliproad like on the other side of the bridge rather than the junction type thats there but its the same as the ones further down at the plough etc.

]]> Comment on General Thoughts by Anodyne http://www.hillboroughextension.com/2011/05/13/general-thoughts/#comment-24 Anodyne Fri, 02 Sep 2011 16:52:31 +0000 http://www.seepreview.co.uk/hillborough/?p=63#comment-24 Alternatively you could think Chobam in Surrey where they have built loads of well designed new homes and the local economy has done really well from it. Nothing stays the same 00264167, we need to flourish or die, whinging is not an option Alternatively you could think Chobam in Surrey where they have built loads of well designed new homes and the local economy has done really well from it. Nothing stays the same 00264167, we need to flourish or die, whinging is not an option

]]> Comment on Education by Anodyne http://www.hillboroughextension.com/2011/06/22/education/#comment-23 Anodyne Fri, 02 Sep 2011 16:50:04 +0000 http://www.seepreview.co.uk/hillborough/?p=77#comment-23 You probably could have dne with a bit more schooling yourself 00264167, your maths are a bit dodgy. They want to build 825 house over smething like 10 years so you don't wake up one morning with 2500 additional screaming kids. If there were two in every house that would be 1650 of them and they would be spread over ten or more years, which means no more than 165 additional little treasures each year. You probably could have dne with a bit more schooling yourself 00264167, your maths are a bit dodgy. They want to build 825 house over smething like 10 years so you don’t wake up one morning with 2500 additional screaming kids. If there were two in every house that would be 1650 of them and they would be spread over ten or more years, which means no more than 165 additional little treasures each year.

]]> Comment on Heart In Hand Road Slip Road by Anodyne http://www.hillboroughextension.com/2011/06/22/heart-in-hand-road-slip-road/#comment-22 Anodyne Fri, 02 Sep 2011 16:46:01 +0000 http://www.seepreview.co.uk/hillborough/?p=85#comment-22 You obviousely don't drive 00264167. Perhaps you digitise yourself nto the Thanet Way in perfect alignment with the speeding traffic. The junction is very dangeous and making it safer would be in everyone's interests but clearly you just can't please some people. You obviousely don’t drive 00264167. Perhaps you digitise yourself nto the Thanet Way in perfect alignment with the speeding traffic. The junction is very dangeous and making it safer would be in everyone’s interests but clearly you just can’t please some people.

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